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Post by Athanasius on Jan 29, 2004 17:12:55 GMT -5
i agree swords and daggers are my fave im thinkin i mite order a dagger
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Post by WioK on Jan 29, 2004 22:39:24 GMT -5
I agree that the weapons are great and all, but we're forgetting the topic.
We're supposed to be talking about the 5th Harry Potter movie.
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Post by Athanasius on Jan 30, 2004 7:18:41 GMT -5
oh yeah sorry bout that, hey do u reckon now sirius is dead that harry will get his house cos then he can move out of the Dursleys?
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Post by WioK on Jan 31, 2004 22:40:50 GMT -5
I think Sirius has immediate family. That would mean someone other than Harry will get the house. Also, Sirius' family are all horrible Death-eaters.
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Post by The Charmed One on Feb 1, 2004 11:11:02 GMT -5
Maybe Sirius left Harry the house?
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Post by Eidan on Feb 1, 2004 11:38:10 GMT -5
Sirius had the house because his family are all dead, only reason why. He has probably left it to Dumbledore to continue meetings, because even though everyone knows about Voldemort he can't risk having it in an open place, and they can't find 13 Grimmauld Place unless they know.
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Post by The Charmed One on Feb 1, 2004 11:44:20 GMT -5
Ah yah, you're right...
I think you mean 12 Grimmauld Place...
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Post by Uozumi on Feb 1, 2004 11:46:15 GMT -5
I don't think Sirius would have touched the will, but who knows?
I have a feeling that Narcissa or Bellatrix will get it as much as I would hate it. It wouldn't be right for Harry to get it even though it would be right at the same time.
Also, I don't think Sirius would have wanted to think about the will. I mean, who wants to think about dying so soon? Also, he might not have wanted to deal with it because he didn't want to deal with his family.
Uozumi
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Post by Athanasius on Feb 1, 2004 14:37:23 GMT -5
i think Dumbledore will carry on using the place for the meetings, but it cant have been left to narcissa because she would have had it while sirius was in azkaban as for bellatrix i dont know i dont think she will have it anyway. Harry couldn't have done anything if he had got it because while he lives with his aunt he safe (as much as it sucks he gotta stay there)
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Post by Uozumi on Feb 1, 2004 14:39:39 GMT -5
Very true.
I just wouldn't think it practical to give him the house, but not improbable.
Uozumi
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Post by Eidan on Feb 1, 2004 15:05:14 GMT -5
aye, 12, not 13, sorry. I'm pretty sure it will be Dumbledore's, because if Bella or Narcissa knew of it they would have checked it out before. They would have made sure Sirius couldn't return by changing what you had to think to get it to show up. They are not immediate family of the owner anyway, it is the Black family house, and they are his cousins, so they are not proper Blacks, really. They are still family, I'm not denying this, but if they knew of it they still wouldn't get it unless it was specified by Sirius, which it wouldn't have been anyway.
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Post by Uozumi on Feb 1, 2004 15:08:53 GMT -5
But, even then - if it is willed to Black family members - then what? Harry isn't technically the next in line at all. However, perhaps wills work in the Wizarding World like they do here, and he will be there because he was specified.
However, it could be like a magical will, and since there are no direct descendants left, it won't turn over to anyone.
Uozumi
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Post by Athanasius on Feb 1, 2004 15:14:47 GMT -5
uozumi mite be right but still magical will or whatever i think dumbledore wud have thought ahead 4 that i mean everyone in the order new they cud die at any moment it was a risk, although sirius wasn't suppose to go out so it cud swing either way
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Post by Eidan on Feb 1, 2004 16:24:34 GMT -5
An important fact though. Everyone thought Sirius was guilty. It would probably take a while to convince Fudge that he was innocent anyway, even though he knows about Voldemort returning. They wouldn't mention the house, so even though he is dead, it doesn't matter. They won't even know about the house, so Dumbledore could keep using it. I don't think they'd give it to a Death Eater, or the wife of a Death Eater if they did know about it. So, it isn't actually worth debating really. lol
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Post by Athanasius on Feb 1, 2004 16:27:57 GMT -5
good point, yeah the only way they can prove sirius innocent is to find out bout wormtail
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