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Post by ravenclaw18 on Jan 21, 2006 14:07:39 GMT -5
draco's got too much pride to be a good guy, but he's afraid of the... er... dark side.
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Post by snufflegirl on Jan 21, 2006 17:41:13 GMT -5
reminds me of han solo.
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Post by ravenclaw18 on Jan 22, 2006 6:17:22 GMT -5
lol. good point
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Post by snufflegirl on Jan 22, 2006 9:14:57 GMT -5
yeas... just me being a star wars freak again...
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Post by ravenclaw18 on Jan 22, 2006 10:21:26 GMT -5
theres nothing wrong with that
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Post by Netthug on Jan 23, 2006 14:27:50 GMT -5
me don't like star wars much. well i dont rele watch the films
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Post by ravenclaw18 on Jan 24, 2006 11:23:25 GMT -5
this is going waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off-topic
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Post by Enelamra Faye on Jan 27, 2006 7:26:26 GMT -5
Draco may have pride, but he has good judgment. He didn't kill Dumbledore, right? Yer, off topic. lol.
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Post by draca on Apr 20, 2006 21:57:40 GMT -5
I.....I really don't know both choices have equal possibilities
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Post by Mary9836 on Aug 6, 2007 14:53:05 GMT -5
Draco is on his own side...and thats all I'm gonna say about that!
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Post by bookluver14 on Jan 10, 2009 17:14:09 GMT -5
i figure the chances that someone logging onto this site who has not read the last book, let alone a new visitor, is ever going to read this. but seeing as it is protocol - SPOILER WARNING.
J.K. Rowling seems to think that it is unhealthy for girls to be falling in love with such an imperfect character, and tries desperately to separate Tom Felton from Draco Malfoy. In her mind Draco's appearance is greatly different from that of Tom. I, however, come to think of Draco Malfoy as looking exactly like Tom, although probably slightly less attractive. And shaggier hair.
Draco Malfoy, no matter how depressed, angry, and troubled - is essentially, good. As is his mother. And it isn't really a question of being good or bad anyway. If we look at the Black family tree we see insanity leads to evil characteristics. Those who we see as being good, broke free early and were able to get away from the negative and sickening atmosphere that comes with being part of a pure blood prestigious family... not that all families with prestigie have an alliance to Voldemort, but it is my understanding that those who don't are only put up with because of their old money status. The majority are easily pushed into Voldemort's allegence by peer pressure - it isn't just for high school anymore! The Black family always wanted to keep on top, to be the BEST. And if that meant joining with Voldemort, then they would do it no questions asked.
It doesn't take a genius to see that Mrs. Black was insane. She raised both her sons severely, forcing concepts into their heads that was enforced by yet another characteristic of pure blood families : do not dishonor your family. This was how Regulus got left behind; he wasn't as strong as Sirius. No matter how his parents treated him, he remained loyal, until practically the end. Sirius, who was able to make friends (James Potter, while seen as dangerous was still probably excepted by pure blood families. Blood Traitors was not as common of a phrase as it became during Harry's time [the weasleys]) spent his years with people completely separate from his family. His loyalty to them contrasted with his family, and in the end he found (sadly, I'm sure it was awful) that he loved his friends more than his family. Love saves people, yet again. He was able to get away unscathed for many years.
Likewise, on the cousin side of the family we have Bellatrix, Narcissa, and Andromeda. This might not be entirely cannon, but they were raised just as severly as the other Blacks. Think of their parents as the typical British aristocracy- they went to formal dinners every night often leaving the girls alone with the house elves. It wasn't until they were older and able to go off to Hogwarts that the parents probably spent much time with them. Especially the father: in his eyes young girls were a waste of time. And the mother couldn't be bothered. So, as such, Bellatrix (The oldest) probably raised her sisters herself. This is never easy for a girl, and seeing as her personality was probably very headstrong she hated being left alone and not treated as significant. Probably wished she had been born a boy everytime her father ignored her. This is not a promising childhood, not at all. When they got older, i believe that they were noted for seperate things. One girl was the pretty one, I'm guessing this would be Narcissa (only because the blond ones are usually more popular - and seeing how she is described in the books, as a young girl i bet she was quite breathtaking. And also, Lucious probably wouldn't have been interested in an unattractive girl - she is also quite younger than him.) Therefore Narcissa was given more attention than either other girl. However, Bellatrix was probably the most popular at school. Brave, 'one of the boys', she didn't cower away from her power like her sisters. And this is where she lost it.
I have a lot of opinions about these three girls, why they turned out the way they did etc, most of it formulated from fan fiction and lots of cannon research. Bellatrix will slowly sink into insanity, loving someone who probably didn't love her back (Lestrange? Malfoy maybe? Or even Voldemort himself... I forget it the last one is at all mentioned in the books.), I believe she was scared at first. Another reason why Andromeda did not break away until she eloped with Ted Tonks. She loved her sisters more than anything; and therefore, Bellatrix was not always evil. Narcissa never was. She knew she could never side with Andromeda and become anyone; it is also my belief that she fell in love with Malfoy the minute she laid eyes on him -- she would do anything for him. And later, she would do anything for her son.
This concept of doing anything for those you love determines whether you are seen as evil or good. Narcissa saved Harry through her love for Draco; and I'm sure there are other examples.
The atmosphere most of these children grew up in teaches children not to love. Is Lucious Malfoy an only child? If so it is perfectly understandable that he doesn't know how to love. He fell for Narcissa's looks, and only put up with Draco on the idea that he would carry on the name and bring honor to the family. He probably treated Draco terribly whenever he say: wanted to go out and play with a friend his father didn't think was worthy, (NOT CANNON) when Draco ever saw his father yell or hit is mother (also, plausible. not cannon.) And hundreds of other things.
But Draco avoided becoming entirely insane like his father or Bellatrix. And yet, he didn't go as far and Sirius. Why? His friends were all like him. Those he, believe it or not, cared for (He did grieve for Crabbe) were in the same boat as him, and he didn't need to defy his family to protect them. He didn't go the same way as Andromeda, either. She had sisters for whom she learned to love, and so she was capable of love at a young age. Her love for Ted saved her. What saved Draco was circumstance. He was raised to hate Dumbledore, but the man had helped him many a time. He hated Harry Potter more than life itself, only because he was the reason Voldemort was as evil and as directed in killing as he was. If Draco didn't hate Harry, he would be good as dead. And yet, at the worst of it Harry saved Draco. He must have been confused beyond belief. But what really pushed it over the top was Snape. It isn't cannon that Snape is Draco's godfather, but even if he isn't he sure as hell was there for Draco. Whether we saw it or not, the fact that he killed Dumbledore instead of allowing Draco to ruin his life by doing so, was not the only instance in which he protected the boy. The whole bond issue with Narcissa only proves his loyalty to Draco even more. This is probably as close to love as Draco ever experienced.
It is all a matter of personality. Evil does not always raise evil, but depending on personality the ability to break through loyalty and the perception that your parents are always right isn't always possible. It can be helped by love, or friendship, or perhaps an experience the provides a true epiphany.
It is cannon however, that harry and draco nodded to each other in the epilogue. This brings tears to my eyes every time I read it. His journey is perhaps even more difficult than that of Sirius or Andromeda - neither of them was called upon by Voldemort to save their parents. The weight and responsibility that fell on Draco's shoulders is something neither Harry or us can understand. But the ability of both characters to put aside their differences and coexist is perhaps, in my opinion at least, one of the most poignant and beautiful things about that last book. Second only to Snape's journey, and his love for lilly. He, also, I could write an entire book about.
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Post by BreAnn on Jan 13, 2009 15:34:10 GMT -5
You rock my socks, lol
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Post by bookluver14 on Mar 31, 2012 17:06:53 GMT -5
My feelings for Draco still know no limits. Oh how brilliant he is. To be honest, my love for him is probably the biggest complement I can give to JKR. i've gone on rants about him on tumblr, but i still felt compelled to post here. His family was his world, blood is thicker than water. He was the boy who didn't have a choice. He was the boy who had to live in the same house as Voldemort, he was the boy who was rejected by the most famous child alive at the tender age of 11. he was the boy who didn't see a way out.
"...he’s sensitive, people bully him, too, and he feels lonely and hasn’t got anybody to talk to, and he’s not afraid to show his feelings and cry!!" —Moaning Myrtle about Draco
He was so isolated and tortured in the sixth year, that he turned to a ghost. he confided and broke down in front of a ghost. Draco was very capable of taking the big talk - he had pride, confidence, and he enjoyed being a prat - let's be honest. it was how he got the most attention from those he wanted to idolize him, and from those he wanted to torture. But he could never have walked the evil walk, so to speak. At 16 he was asked to kill. And it broke him. A choiceless choice, to comit murder, an act that would destroy him, or fail and have his family and himself killed. In the study of ethics this is called 'a grey zone'. I would continue... but I'm starving and my friends are headed to dinner.
Draco was a boy. He didn't know anything except pride, honor, and duty. But he saw no great importance or significance in Voldemort's war. He only saw his family, and being all that they wanted him to be-- keeping them alive and together. He was a Hogwarts boy, a slytherin, and despite his insults, never wanted to see evil or death befall and of his classmates. He was comfortable at hogwarts, safe, and content. He was torn. All he wanted to do was be a smug prat, but his childhood was taken from him too young.
Gah. Dinner.
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